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Evo,ja cu napisati najbolje igrace na fm 2011. Gledao sam u editoru:

 

Golmani

 

 

Rene Adler – Bayern Levekusen

Hugo Lloris – Lyon

Igor Akinfeev – CSKA Moscow

Manuel Neuer – Schalke

Guillermo Ochoa – Club America

Sergio Asenjo – Atletico Madrid

Doni – Roma

Salvatore Sirigu – Palermo

Joe Hart – Man City

Samir Handanovic – Udinese

Ralf Fahrmann – Wolfsburg

Stephane Ruffier – Monaco

Andrea Consigli – Atalanta

Matej Delac – Vitesse

David De Gea – Atletico Madrid

Vincenzo Fiorillo – Spezia

 

Levi bekovi

 

 

Aleksandar Kolarov – Man City

Gareth Bale – Tottenham

Federico Balzaretti – Palermo

Domenico Criscito – Genoa

Marcelo – Real Madrid

Fabio – Man Utd

Luca Antontini – Milan

Mattia Cassani – Palermo

Michael Bastos – Lyon

Diego Renan – Cruziero

Joe Mattock – West Brom

 

Desni bekovi

 

 

Davide Santon – Inter

Rafinha – Genoa

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Lassana Diarra – Real Madrid

Lorenzo De Silvestri – Fiorentina

Rafael – Man Utd

Cesar Azpilicueta – Marseille

Alexandr Anyukov – Zenit

Daniele Bonera – Milan

Sebastian Corchia – PSG

 

Stoperi

 

 

Nicolas Otamendi – Porto

Mamadou Sakho – PSG

Jan Vertonghen – Ajax

Lucio – Inter

Giorgio Chillieni – Juventus

Nedum Onuoha – Sunderland

Filipe – Deportivo

Mirel Radoi – Al Hilal

Federico Fazio – Sevilla

Sami Khedira – Stuttgart

Marc Muniesa – Barcelona

Micah Richards – Man City

Gerard Pique – Barcelona

Breno – Bayern Munich

Thiago Heleno – Cruzeiro

Cristian Zapata – Udinese

Simon Kjaer – Wolfsburg

Rafael Miranda – Maritimo

David Luiz – Benfica

Thiago Silva – AC Milan

Gerson – Gremoio

Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos

Nelson Rivas – Livorno

Jeremy Toulalan – Lyon

Naldo – Werder Bremen

Felipe – Fiorentina

Vincent Kompany – Man City

Gonzalo Rodriguez – Villarreal

 

Levo krilo

 

 

Juan Angel Albin – Getafe

Zoran Tosic – CSKA Moscow

Juan Manuel Vargas – Fiorentina

Antonio Cassano – Sampdoria

Ibrahim Afellay – PSV

Sebastian Giovinco – Parma

Stevan Jovetic – Fiorentina

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Diego Buonanotte – River Plate

Danny – Zenit

Franck Ribery – FC Bayern

Mesut Ozil – Real Madrid

Angel Di Maria – Real Madrid

Adam Johnson – Man City

Santiago Cazorla – Villareal

 

Desno Krilo

 

 

Jesús Navas – Sevilla

Yoann Gourcuff – Bourdeaux

Arjen Robben – FC Bayern

Pedro – Barcelona

Simone Pepe – Juventus

Jose Sosa – Napoli

Theo Walcott – Arsenal

Henri Saivet – Bourdeaux

Marko Marin – Werder Bremen

Steven Pienaar – Everton

Stephane Sessegnon – PSG

Simao – Atletico Madrid

Aaron Lennon – Tottenham

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Maxi Rodriguez – Liverpool

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

Chinedu Obasi – FC Bayern

 

Zadnji vezni

 

 

Daniele De Rossi – Roma

Felipe Melo – Juventus

Miguel Veloso – Genoa

Etienne Capoue – Toulouse

Moussa Sissoko – Toulouse

Mohammed Sissoko – Juventus

Lorenzo Crisetig – Inter

Bastian Schweinsteiger – Bayern

Ever Banega – Valencia

Lars Bender – Leverkusen

Fernando Gago – Real Madrid

Claudio Marchisio – Juventus

Ignacio Camacho – Atletico Madrid

Tinga – Palmeiras

Sandro – Tottenham

 

 

Polu spic

 

 

Pablo Piatti – Almeria

Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble

Stefan Defour – Standard

Diego – Wolfsburg

Marek Hamsik – Napoli

Axel Witsel – Standard

Joao Moutinho – Sporting

Paulo Henrique – Santos

Ismail Aissati – Ajax

Riccardo Montolivo – Fiorentina

Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow

Miralem Pjanic – Lyon

Toni Kroos – FC Bayern

Renato Augusto – Leverkusen

 

 

Napadaci

 

 

Gonzalo Higuain – Real Madrid

Sergio Aguero – Atletico Madrid

Mario Balotelli – Man City

Pato – Milan

Karim Benzema – Real Madrid

Chinedu Obasi – Bayern

Goran Pandev – Inter

Edinson Cavani – Napoli

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Marco Borriello – Roma

Bojan – Barcelona

Ezequiel Lavezzi – Napoli

Edin Dzeko – Wolfsburg

Fabio Quagliarella – Juventus

Alexandr Kerzhakov – Zenit

Juan Manuel Mata – Valencia

Thomas Muller – FC Bayern

Lisandro Lopez – Lyon

Robert Acquafresca – Cagilari

Amauri – Juventus

Mario Gomez – FC Bayern

Jeremy Menez – Roma

Rodrigo Palacio – Genoa

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

 

o – Atletico Madrid

Doni – Roma

Salvatore Sirigu – Palermo

Joe Hart – Man City

Samir Handanovic – Udinese

Ralf Fahrmann – Wolfsburg

Stephane Ruffier – Monaco

Andrea Consigli – Atalanta

Matej Delac – Vitesse

David De Gea – Atletico Madrid

Vincenzo Fiorillo – Spezia

 

Levi bekovi

 

 

Aleksandar Kolarov – Man City

Gareth Bale – Tottenham

Federico Balzaretti – Palermo

Domenico Criscito – Genoa

Marcelo – Real Madrid

Fabio – Man Utd

Luca Antontini – Milan

Mattia Cassani – Palermo

Michael Bastos – Lyon

Diego Renan – Cruziero

Joe Mattock – West Brom

 

Desni bekovi

 

 

Davide Santon – Inter

Rafinha – Genoa

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Lassana Diarra – Real Madrid

Lorenzo De Silvestri – Fiorentina

Rafael – Man Utd

Cesar Azpilicueta – Marseille

Alexandr Anyukov – Zenit

Daniele Bonera – Milan

Sebastian Corchia – PSG

 

Stoperi

 

 

Nicolas Otamendi – Porto

Mamadou Sakho – PSG

Jan Vertonghen – Ajax

Lucio – Inter

Giorgio Chillieni – Juventus

Nedum Onuoha – Sunderland

Filipe – Deportivo

Mirel Radoi – Al Hilal

Federico Fazio – Sevilla

Sami Khedira – Stuttgart

Marc Muniesa – Barcelona

Micah Richards – Man City

Gerard Pique – Barcelona

Breno – Bayern Munich

Thiago Heleno – Cruzeiro

Cristian Zapata – Udinese

Simon Kjaer – Wolfsburg

Rafael Miranda – Maritimo

David Luiz – Benfica

Thiago Silva – AC Milan

Gerson – Gremoio

Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos

Nelson Rivas – Livorno

Jeremy Toulalan – Lyon

Naldo – Werder Bremen

Felipe – Fiorentina

Vincent Kompany – Man City

Gonzalo Rodriguez – Villarreal

 

Levo krilo

 

 

Juan Angel Albin – Getafe

Zoran Tosic – CSKA Moscow

Juan Manuel Vargas – Fiorentina

Antonio Cassano – Sampdoria

Ibrahim Afellay – PSV

Sebastian Giovinco – Parma

Stevan Jovetic – Fiorentina

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Diego Buonanotte – River Plate

Danny – Zenit

Franck Ribery – FC Bayern

Mesut Ozil – Real Madrid

Angel Di Maria – Real Madrid

Adam Johnson – Man City

Santiago Cazorla – Villareal

 

Desno Krilo

 

 

Jesús Navas – Sevilla

Yoann Gourcuff – Bourdeaux

Arjen Robben – FC Bayern

Pedro – Barcelona

Simone Pepe – Juventus

Jose Sosa – Napoli

Theo Walcott – Arsenal

Henri Saivet – Bourdeaux

Marko Marin – Werder Bremen

Steven Pienaar – Everton

Stephane Sessegnon – PSG

Simao – Atletico Madrid

Aaron Lennon – Tottenham

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Maxi Rodriguez – Liverpool

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

Chinedu Obasi – FC Bayern

 

Zadnji vezni

 

 

Daniele De Rossi – Roma

Felipe Melo – Juventus

Miguel Veloso – Genoa

Etienne Capoue – Toulouse

Moussa Sissoko – Toulouse

Mohammed Sissoko – Juventus

Lorenzo Crisetig – Inter

Bastian Schweinsteiger – Bayern

Ever Banega – Valencia

Lars Bender – Leverkusen

Fernando Gago – Real Madrid

Claudio Marchisio – Juventus

Ignacio Camacho – Atletico Madrid

Tinga – Palmeiras

Sandro – Tottenham

 

 

Polu spic

 

 

Pablo Piatti – Almeria

Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble

Stefan Defour – Standard

Diego – Wolfsburg

Marek Hamsik – Napoli

Axel Witsel – Standard

Joao Moutinho – Sporting

Paulo Henrique – Santos

Ismail Aissati – Ajax

Riccardo Montolivo – Fiorentina

Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow

Miralem Pjanic – Lyon

Toni Kroos – FC Bayern

Renato Augusto – Leverkusen

Messi - Barcelona

Ronaldo - Real

 

Napadaci

 

 

Gonzalo Higuain – Real Madrid

Sergio Aguero – Atletico Madrid

Mario Balotelli – Man City

Pato – Milan

Karim Benzema – Real Madrid

Chinedu Obasi – Bayern

Goran Pandev – Inter

Edinson Cavani – Napoli

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Marco Borriello – Roma

Bojan – Barcelona

Ezequiel Lavezzi – Napoli

Edin Dzeko – Wolfsburg

Fabio Quagliarella – Juventus

Alexandr Kerzhakov – Zenit

Juan Manuel Mata – Valencia

Thomas Muller – FC Bayern

Lisandro Lopez – Lyon

Robert Acquafresca – Cagilari

Amauri – Juventus

Mario Gomez – FC Bayern

Jeremy Menez – Roma

Rodrigo Palacio – Genoa

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

 

 

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Mogao si da ubacis i Ronalda i Messija tu, nisu nista manje poznatiji od Gansa, Aguera, Llorisa i slicnih. Moj ti je savjet da i njih ubacis. Cini mi se da si dva puta nabrojao igrace...

Nego mene zanima po kojem si kriterijumu izabrao ove igrace ( CA, PA ili nesto drugo) jer vidim da nisi nabrojao Aarona Ramseya, koji ima -10, prema tome bi mogao da ima veci PA i od Ronalda (195) i od Messija (197) ?

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Njega sam prebacio  facepalm

Engleska:

 

Arsenal

 

Aaron Ramsey -10

 

Jack Wilshire -9

 

 

Birmingham

 

Jack Butland -9

 

 

Bolton

 

Lee Chung-Yong -9

 

 

Blackburn

 

Phil Jones -9

 

 

Chelsea

 

Daniel Sturridge -9

 

Philipp Prosenik -9

 

Matej Delac -9

 

Tomas Kalas -9

 

Josh McEachran -9

 

Gael Kakuta -9

 

 

Liverpool

 

Jonjo Shelvey -9

 

Toni Silva -9

 

Jack Robinson -9

 

Danny Wilson -9

 

Daniel Pacheco -9

 

Suso -9

 

 

Manchester City

 

Vladimir Weiss -9

 

Alex Nimely -9

 

Dedryck Boyata -9

 

 

Manchester United

 

Rafael -9

 

Fabio -9

 

Federicho Macheda -9

 

Petrucci Davide -9

 

Ravel Morrison -9

 

Bebe -9

 

 

Newcastle

 

Haris Vuckic -9

 

 

Stoke

 

Asmir Begovic -9

 

 

Tottenham

 

Harry Kane -9

 

 

West Ham

 

Jordan Spence -9

 

 

Wolves

 

Zeli Ismail -9

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Da objasnim sta znaci -10, -9 itd:

-10 PA ce mu biti izmedju 180 i 200 (sto znaci da je odlican igrac). A -9 PA je negde oko 170 - 180, a -8 je negde oko 160 i 170 itd.

PA - potencijal

Maximum PA je 200.

Nadam se da ste shvatili.

P.S: Izvinite zbog 2 posta.

Hvala Adi,sutra tj danas ide tut o mladim igracima. :thumbup:

Pogresno.

Potencijal -10 znaci da ce mu PA biti sigurno izmedju 170-200.

-9 = 150-180

-8 = 130-160

-7 = 110-140

-6 = 90-120

-5 = 70-100

-4 = 50-80

-3 = 30-60

-2 = 10-40

-1 = 0-30

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Evo,ja cu napisati najbolje igrace na fm 2011. Gledao sam u editoru:

 

Golmani

 

 

Rene Adler – Bayern Levekusen

Hugo Lloris – Lyon

Igor Akinfeev – CSKA Moscow

Manuel Neuer – Schalke

Guillermo Ochoa – Club America

Sergio Asenjo – Atletico Madrid

Doni – Roma

Salvatore Sirigu – Palermo

Joe Hart – Man City

Samir Handanovic – Udinese

Ralf Fahrmann – Wolfsburg

Stephane Ruffier – Monaco

Andrea Consigli – Atalanta

Matej Delac – Vitesse

David De Gea – Atletico Madrid

Vincenzo Fiorillo – Spezia

 

Levi bekovi

 

 

Aleksandar Kolarov – Man City

Gareth Bale – Tottenham

Federico Balzaretti – Palermo

Domenico Criscito – Genoa

Marcelo – Real Madrid

Fabio – Man Utd

Luca Antontini – Milan

Mattia Cassani – Palermo

Michael Bastos – Lyon

Diego Renan – Cruziero

Joe Mattock – West Brom

 

Desni bekovi

 

 

Davide Santon – Inter

Rafinha – Genoa

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Lassana Diarra – Real Madrid

Lorenzo De Silvestri – Fiorentina

Rafael – Man Utd

Cesar Azpilicueta – Marseille

Alexandr Anyukov – Zenit

Daniele Bonera – Milan

Sebastian Corchia – PSG

 

Stoperi

 

 

Nicolas Otamendi – Porto

Mamadou Sakho – PSG

Jan Vertonghen – Ajax

Lucio – Inter

Giorgio Chillieni – Juventus

Nedum Onuoha – Sunderland

Filipe – Deportivo

Mirel Radoi – Al Hilal

Federico Fazio – Sevilla

Sami Khedira – Stuttgart

Marc Muniesa – Barcelona

Micah Richards – Man City

Gerard Pique – Barcelona

Breno – Bayern Munich

Thiago Heleno – Cruzeiro

Cristian Zapata – Udinese

Simon Kjaer – Wolfsburg

Rafael Miranda – Maritimo

David Luiz – Benfica

Thiago Silva – AC Milan

Gerson – Gremoio

Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos

Nelson Rivas – Livorno

Jeremy Toulalan – Lyon

Naldo – Werder Bremen

Felipe – Fiorentina

Vincent Kompany – Man City

Gonzalo Rodriguez – Villarreal

 

Levo krilo

 

 

Juan Angel Albin – Getafe

Zoran Tosic – CSKA Moscow

Juan Manuel Vargas – Fiorentina

Antonio Cassano – Sampdoria

Ibrahim Afellay – PSV

Sebastian Giovinco – Parma

Stevan Jovetic – Fiorentina

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Diego Buonanotte – River Plate

Danny – Zenit

Franck Ribery – FC Bayern

Mesut Ozil – Real Madrid

Angel Di Maria – Real Madrid

Adam Johnson – Man City

Santiago Cazorla – Villareal

 

Desno Krilo

 

 

Jesús Navas – Sevilla

Yoann Gourcuff – Bourdeaux

Arjen Robben – FC Bayern

Pedro – Barcelona

Simone Pepe – Juventus

Jose Sosa – Napoli

Theo Walcott – Arsenal

Henri Saivet – Bourdeaux

Marko Marin – Werder Bremen

Steven Pienaar – Everton

Stephane Sessegnon – PSG

Simao – Atletico Madrid

Aaron Lennon – Tottenham

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Maxi Rodriguez – Liverpool

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

Chinedu Obasi – FC Bayern

 

Zadnji vezni

 

 

Daniele De Rossi – Roma

Felipe Melo – Juventus

Miguel Veloso – Genoa

Etienne Capoue – Toulouse

Moussa Sissoko – Toulouse

Mohammed Sissoko – Juventus

Lorenzo Crisetig – Inter

Bastian Schweinsteiger – Bayern

Ever Banega – Valencia

Lars Bender – Leverkusen

Fernando Gago – Real Madrid

Claudio Marchisio – Juventus

Ignacio Camacho – Atletico Madrid

Tinga – Palmeiras

Sandro – Tottenham

 

 

Polu spic

 

 

Pablo Piatti – Almeria

Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble

Stefan Defour – Standard

Diego – Wolfsburg

Marek Hamsik – Napoli

Axel Witsel – Standard

Joao Moutinho – Sporting

Paulo Henrique – Santos

Ismail Aissati – Ajax

Riccardo Montolivo – Fiorentina

Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow

Miralem Pjanic – Lyon

Toni Kroos – FC Bayern

Renato Augusto – Leverkusen

 

 

Napadaci

 

 

Gonzalo Higuain – Real Madrid

Sergio Aguero – Atletico Madrid

Mario Balotelli – Man City

Pato – Milan

Karim Benzema – Real Madrid

Chinedu Obasi – Bayern

Goran Pandev – Inter

Edinson Cavani – Napoli

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Marco Borriello – Roma

Bojan – Barcelona

Ezequiel Lavezzi – Napoli

Edin Dzeko – Wolfsburg

Fabio Quagliarella – Juventus

Alexandr Kerzhakov – Zenit

Juan Manuel Mata – Valencia

Thomas Muller – FC Bayern

Lisandro Lopez – Lyon

Robert Acquafresca – Cagilari

Amauri – Juventus

Mario Gomez – FC Bayern

Jeremy Menez – Roma

Rodrigo Palacio – Genoa

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

 

o – Atletico Madrid

Doni – Roma

Salvatore Sirigu – Palermo

Joe Hart – Man City

Samir Handanovic – Udinese

Ralf Fahrmann – Wolfsburg

Stephane Ruffier – Monaco

Andrea Consigli – Atalanta

Matej Delac – Vitesse

David De Gea – Atletico Madrid

Vincenzo Fiorillo – Spezia

 

Levi bekovi

 

 

Aleksandar Kolarov – Man City

Gareth Bale – Tottenham

Federico Balzaretti – Palermo

Domenico Criscito – Genoa

Marcelo – Real Madrid

Fabio – Man Utd

Luca Antontini – Milan

Mattia Cassani – Palermo

Michael Bastos – Lyon

Diego Renan – Cruziero

Joe Mattock – West Brom

 

Desni bekovi

 

 

Davide Santon – Inter

Rafinha – Genoa

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Lassana Diarra – Real Madrid

Lorenzo De Silvestri – Fiorentina

Rafael – Man Utd

Cesar Azpilicueta – Marseille

Alexandr Anyukov – Zenit

Daniele Bonera – Milan

Sebastian Corchia – PSG

 

Stoperi

 

 

Nicolas Otamendi – Porto

Mamadou Sakho – PSG

Jan Vertonghen – Ajax

Lucio – Inter

Giorgio Chillieni – Juventus

Nedum Onuoha – Sunderland

Filipe – Deportivo

Mirel Radoi – Al Hilal

Federico Fazio – Sevilla

Sami Khedira – Stuttgart

Marc Muniesa – Barcelona

Micah Richards – Man City

Gerard Pique – Barcelona

Breno – Bayern Munich

Thiago Heleno – Cruzeiro

Cristian Zapata – Udinese

Simon Kjaer – Wolfsburg

Rafael Miranda – Maritimo

David Luiz – Benfica

Thiago Silva – AC Milan

Gerson – Gremoio

Kyriakos Papadopoulos – Olympiakos

Nelson Rivas – Livorno

Jeremy Toulalan – Lyon

Naldo – Werder Bremen

Felipe – Fiorentina

Vincent Kompany – Man City

Gonzalo Rodriguez – Villarreal

 

Levo krilo

 

 

Juan Angel Albin – Getafe

Zoran Tosic – CSKA Moscow

Juan Manuel Vargas – Fiorentina

Antonio Cassano – Sampdoria

Ibrahim Afellay – PSV

Sebastian Giovinco – Parma

Stevan Jovetic – Fiorentina

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Diego Buonanotte – River Plate

Danny – Zenit

Franck Ribery – FC Bayern

Mesut Ozil – Real Madrid

Angel Di Maria – Real Madrid

Adam Johnson – Man City

Santiago Cazorla – Villareal

 

Desno Krilo

 

 

Jesús Navas – Sevilla

Yoann Gourcuff – Bourdeaux

Arjen Robben – FC Bayern

Pedro – Barcelona

Simone Pepe – Juventus

Jose Sosa – Napoli

Theo Walcott – Arsenal

Henri Saivet – Bourdeaux

Marko Marin – Werder Bremen

Steven Pienaar – Everton

Stephane Sessegnon – PSG

Simao – Atletico Madrid

Aaron Lennon – Tottenham

Darijo Srna – Shakhtar

Maxi Rodriguez – Liverpool

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

Chinedu Obasi – FC Bayern

 

Zadnji vezni

 

 

Daniele De Rossi – Roma

Felipe Melo – Juventus

Miguel Veloso – Genoa

Etienne Capoue – Toulouse

Moussa Sissoko – Toulouse

Mohammed Sissoko – Juventus

Lorenzo Crisetig – Inter

Bastian Schweinsteiger – Bayern

Ever Banega – Valencia

Lars Bender – Leverkusen

Fernando Gago – Real Madrid

Claudio Marchisio – Juventus

Ignacio Camacho – Atletico Madrid

Tinga – Palmeiras

Sandro – Tottenham

 

 

Polu spic

 

 

Pablo Piatti – Almeria

Sofiane Feghouli – Grenoble

Stefan Defour – Standard

Diego – Wolfsburg

Marek Hamsik – Napoli

Axel Witsel – Standard

Joao Moutinho – Sporting

Paulo Henrique – Santos

Ismail Aissati – Ajax

Riccardo Montolivo – Fiorentina

Alan Dzagoev – CSKA Moscow

Miralem Pjanic – Lyon

Toni Kroos – FC Bayern

Renato Augusto – Leverkusen

Messi - Barcelona

Ronaldo - Real

 

Napadaci

 

 

Gonzalo Higuain – Real Madrid

Sergio Aguero – Atletico Madrid

Mario Balotelli – Man City

Pato – Milan

Karim Benzema – Real Madrid

Chinedu Obasi – Bayern

Goran Pandev – Inter

Edinson Cavani – Napoli

Mirko Vucinic – Roma

Marco Borriello – Roma

Bojan – Barcelona

Ezequiel Lavezzi – Napoli

Edin Dzeko – Wolfsburg

Fabio Quagliarella – Juventus

Alexandr Kerzhakov – Zenit

Juan Manuel Mata – Valencia

Thomas Muller – FC Bayern

Lisandro Lopez – Lyon

Robert Acquafresca – Cagilari

Amauri – Juventus

Mario Gomez – FC Bayern

Jeremy Menez – Roma

Rodrigo Palacio – Genoa

Alexis Sanchez – Udinese

 

 

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